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Stepping In Faith
Hearing The Voice of God: Part Two
Have you ever wondered why you struggle to hear God's voice despite your devotion? In this eye-opening episode, Walter and Shanea challenge the limiting belief that God only speaks through Scripture. With refreshing candor and spiritual insight, they explore how believers often serve a multidimensional God while approaching Him as if He's one-dimensional.
The couple navigates powerful biblical examples demonstrating God's diverse communication methods from dreams and visions to inner knowings and angelic messengers. Drawing from Habakkuk, Paul's Damascus road encounter, Joseph's prophetic dreams, and Ezekiel's spiritual transportations, they illustrate how God's voice has always transcended conventional understanding.
Walter and Shanea provide practical guidance for discerning authentic divine communication from other voices. They emphasize that God's voice will always align with His character and the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:16-26), bringing peace rather than fear or chaos. Their conversation extends beyond spiritual theory to address how true connection with God should naturally cultivate compassion for justice, the poor, and marginalized communities.
This episode offers spiritual depth and practical application, helping listeners develop their unique relationship with God rather than experiencing Him solely through others' encounters. Whether you're new to faith or have been walking with God for years, this conversation will challenge you to create space for divine communication and recognize His voice in whatever form it takes.
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Welcome back to another episode of Stepping in Faith, where, together, we explore the importance of having a relationship with God and how that relationship with God can impact the relationship you have with others. I'm your host, walter, and I'm joined here alongside my lovely wife.
SHANEA:Shanea.
WALTER:How did that sound? I guess it's cool. What do you mean? I don't know.
SHANEA:So you want to do it over again.
WALTER:No.
SHANEA:Oh, okay.
WALTER:Just wondering. So this is episode. Wait, I'm going out of order. Typically, we start off with prayer, and we start off with prayer because we're believers and, yeah, that's where we're going to go first. You okay, no but I'm going to be fine. Okay. So you prayed last week right.
SHANEA:I think so, but I really don't remember, honestly.
WALTER:I can't hear you.
SHANEA:I really don't remember, honestly.
WALTER:Okay, all right, so I believe you did so. I'll pray, all right. Father god, as we come before you this afternoon, we are grateful for your love, your mercy and your grace, and we pray that your perfect will will continue to be carried out in our lives, in the lives of the listeners, in the lives of your people. Holy Spirit, we yield to you and we submit to you. Lord Jesus, not only do we acknowledge you, but we welcome you. Father God, we thank you for your perfect will. We thank you for your love, your mercy, your grace, your kindness, your joy and your peace. Let this podcast episode reach those that you've called for it to reach. Let it touch them, open their ears so that they will hear what you have to say. Spiritually, god, help them to see God spiritually. Help them to hear spiritually, father God, help them to develop a closer and more intimate relationship with you. We thank you even now, in the name of Jesus. We pray Amen. Amen what.
SHANEA:Nothing.
WALTER:You'd be looking like you'd be having something to say.
SHANEA:No.
WALTER:So this is episode what 21.
SHANEA:21. Episode 21.
WALTER:The devil is a liar 21. I speak against that right now. So this is episode 21. We have been doing this for 21 weeks now. Yeah. Lord have mercy. What is the title of this week's episode?
SHANEA:Hearing the Voice of God Part 2.
WALTER:You have a different type of energy today. Huh, Did you have candy or something?
SHANEA:I had that donut.
WALTER:Oh okay, I did Okay. When my wife has sweets, sometimes she gets a sugar rush yeah.
SHANEA:I'm like a little kid. I do yeah, because I don't really eat sugar like that. You do I don't you over there eating all the sugars and stuff?
WALTER:Listen, Jesus. We already know he likes to eat the sugar. So listen, that's my Lord and sugar, so listen, that's my lord and savior and that's my big brother so hey and that's cool.
SHANEA:I'm just not used to eating sweets like that, so sometimes yes and you gotta speak louder because you're whispering.
WALTER:You have to get. God already told you that you got to project I.
SHANEA:I have to project my voice.
WALTER:Yes, you got to be bold in what you're saying, and so Thank you for reminding me.
WALTER:You're welcome. I will consistently be mindful of reminding you of the importance of being bold in what thus says the Lord. So, episode 21, hearing the voice of God, part two. Last week we touched on a few things. Right, we spoke about it. We're going to revisit that again the fact that sometimes we look at God as being one-dimensional. We touched on a few things, basically, just kind of digging into the importance of hearing the voice of God and positioning yourself in such a way where you can hear that said voice. What's wrong? Nothing.
WALTER:Sure, okay, okay, and so are you. Okay, lord have mercy.
SHANEA:I'm fine, I'm fine. One donut we have feeling on the inside so I have feeling on the inside, please forgive us.
WALTER:Please forgive us.
WALTER:You're seeing my wife in her rare form okay so, um, we just really touched on the importance of understanding. I believe we touched on the fact that god is always speaking. We may have touched on that, I'm not sure, but we touched on the fact that God is always speaking. We may have touched on that, I'm not sure, but we touched on a few things Actually. No, let me go back, I'm in the wrong section. So we touched on the fact that you need the Spirit to understand the voice of God. We touched on your position, which determines your perception. We talked about Samuel and where he was positioned when he heard the Lord speaking, and we talked about, or we discussed, the importance of remaining, not just visiting, right, so, and we touched on a little bit the importance of stillness, being still and knowing that he's God being still the importance of that stillness waiting still and knowing that he's God being still, the importance of that stillness waiting upon the Lord.
WALTER:But to really, you know, familiarize yourself with this week episode, go back and listen to that last week episode first and then listen to this week episode if you haven't heard it yet.
SHANEA:Okay, what's wrong?
WALTER:No, you kind of whistling a little bit.
SHANEA:What's wrong? No, you're kind of whistling a little bit.
WALTER:I don't know why.
SHANEA:It's cool.
WALTER:You'll fix it in post, mm-hmm. So this is where we are. Let's get started. Talk about we stated that this week, not only will we finish up last week episode, but we would also dig into the different ways that he speaks. So where do we begin? Some of the scriptures that we will be reviewing this week. There's more, I believe, but this first corinthians 2, that's chapter 2, verse 10 through 15. First samuel, chapter 3, verse 1 through 2. John 15, verse 4 through 10. Romans 8, verse 5, revelation, chapter 1, verse 8. So let's dig into this. I wanted to revisit the idea of one-dimensional versus multi-dimensional, because I believe we get in trouble with that that.
WALTER:So really just to revisit this one dimensional is essentially just saying we a lot of times we limit God, how God moves, how God speaks. One of the greatest issues that we have within the body of Christ is we think that God is still stuck in the Bible. We see the Bible as this book that contains God and that the things that took place was only for that period of time.
WALTER:The only way God can speak to us is through the Bible. The only way that we can hear his voice is through the Bible. The only way that we can learn who he is is through the Bible. So we no longer encounter him for ourselves and we don't understand that God is multi-dimensional, right, and we touched on this before. So let me see, we touched on one dimensional meaning something that has only one aspect, aspect or lack depth or complexity, and we touched on multi-dimensional being is having many aspects, features or layers, something that is complex, rich and not limited to just one perspective. So what are your thoughts on that, babe?
SHANEA:No, I think you're absolutely right. I know we get a lot of comments and people debating us about how we hear God, because they only see God through the Bible or through the words of other people in the. Bible, and so it's like they can't hear God for themselves.
WALTER:Yeah, and you have to be really careful because you start seeking other people. You start trying to seek God's voice through prophets or through your pastors, through your leaders, which is not necessarily wrong, but there should be confirmation.
SHANEA:Right, I think the thing is, is that this is your life and so, while you do have the Bible as a guide, your Holy Spirit is. The Holy Spirit is your helper. Like God holds your blueprint, like your blueprint isn't like it's found. There's guidelines in the Bible, but you have your own personal Testament. You have your own personal book. You know, you have your own personal revelation and you can only get that by way of the Holy Spirit, you can only get that through having a relationship with God.
WALTER:Yeah.
SHANEA:And the simple fact that, yes, you your own natural mind, because you don't have a personal relationship with god, whose spirit helps you understand the scripture yeah, it's only by um and that digs into.
WALTER:I believe that's first or second. Timothy that talks about it discusses how the scriptures is inspired by the Holy Spirit. And. God was dealing with me on that back in 2023. And he was saying how can you understand the scriptures if you don't have the Holy Spirit? Yeah, when the scriptures themselves were inspired by the Holy Spirit. Right.
WALTER:So let's dig into the Romans 11, 33, verse 36. And this is really just kind of exploring and gaining an understanding to the fact that God is very complex, extremely complex. So 11, and this is the NLT version, verse 33, it says and who has given him so much that he needs to pay it back, for everything comes from him and exists by his power and is intended for his glory. All glory to him forever. Amen. We have to understand that God is greater and bigger than the Bible. We also and we say this a lot and I'll continue to say it because I think it's important that we really grasp what this means the scriptures is nothing more than different men and women encounters with God. So we have to get out of this position of trying to experience God through other people encounters. Right.
WALTER:The scriptures is meant to act as a tool that leads you back to God, so that you can have your own encounter with God.
SHANEA:Right. It's like how people grow up in the church, or you grow up at home and you only know God or Jesus through the lens of your parents or the lens of your pastor, and you're wondering why you're struggling. And it's because you don't have your own personal relationship, you're just following tradition.
WALTER:And it's just as simple as this God's ways are deeper than our understanding. Simple as this God's ways are deeper than our understanding God's ways are deeper than our understanding. When you think about that it's like whoa. Yeah, seriously, his ways are deeper than we cannot even fathom Like. Even even if we was to try to understand God ways, it would blow our minds.
SHANEA:Yeah, that's why we have a helper called the Holy Spirit to help communicate what it is that God is actually saying Exactly.
WALTER:And we often and we touched on this last week we often reduce God to stories of the past and ignore how he wants to speak. Now that was good. I got to say that one more time. We often reduce God to stories of the past and ignore how he wants to speak right now. We limit him, which is why we rarely experience him or even have an understanding of what he's saying to us. That's the difference between someone who can clearly hear the voice of God consistently versus someone who struggles. You have to dig in and say okay, is it something that I am doing that is limiting him? Or maybe he's speaking and I don't understand.
WALTER:Exactly Because of where I am. Yeah. So Isaiah 55, verse 8 through 12, or 8 through 11, I guess we went to 13. What do you mean?
SHANEA:Oh, 8 through 11, I guess we went to 13. What do you mean? Oh, 8 through 13. You want to read that.
SHANEA:Isaiah 55. My thoughts are nothing like your thoughts, says the Lord, and my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine. For just as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than your ways. Did you read oh, continue ground to water the earth. They cause the grain to grow, producing seed for the farmer and bread for the hungry. It is the same with my word. I send it out and it always produces fruit. It will accomplish all I want it to and it will prosper everywhere I send it. You will live in joy and peace. The mountains and hills will burst into song and the trees of the field will clap their hands. Where once there were thorns, cypress trees will grow. Where nettles grew, myrtles will sprout up. These events will bring great honor to the Lord's name and they will be everlasting signs of His power and love.
WALTER:Being an everlasting sign of his power and love. Being an everlasting sign of his power and love. God's thoughts is nothing like ours.
SHANEA:As you was reading that that part, I stood out, though I.
WALTER:Yeah, that's why I emphasized the I. It will accomplish all I want it to. Yes. And it will prosper everywhere. I send it. Yes, the lord speaking, yes, that's a message within itself. Yes, people, y'all want to do what you want to do. The scripture lets us know you can try, but god is sovereign and he gonna do whatever he want to do, because how he wants to do it, because once again.
SHANEA:And you have to fall into submission.
WALTER:Here's the thing that we have, and we're not going to get off subject but God don't serve us, we serve him. God does not serve us, we serve him. So we have to stop looking for areas in our lives where we think god is submitted unto us. That is a very that's pride. That's pride that those areas when you have, though, that thought process, you're struggling with pride in that particular area of your life and you need to work on that.
SHANEA:It's not good. Not good or idolatry.
WALTER:Idolatry as well.
SHANEA:Yes.
WALTER:But back on to subject. This scripture was so important because it shows his ways are nothing like our ways. His thoughts are nothing like our thoughts, which is why we have to submit ourselves to him, so he can guide us in what's taking place and what needs to happen and how we should move, how we should go, because a lot of times you get stuck looking for God to speak in a particular way based on the way he spoke before, and he may be speaking to you in a different way now.
SHANEA:Right, or you're looking for him to speak to you like a particular person in the Bible, when you don't have those same gifts that that person has.
WALTER:So he speaks to you in a different way.
SHANEA:Right.
WALTER:And so this is why we have to stop being in this position where we attempt to encounter God through other people encounters, or attempt to understand God, or look for God to speak in our lives through other people encounters. Right.
WALTER:You got to have your own encounter with God, your own relationship. Daniel's relationship with God can't sustain you. Zachariah relationship with God can't sustain you. Ezekiel relationship with God can't sustain you. Zachariah relationship with God can't sustain you. Ezekiel relationship with God can't sustain you. Paul relationship with God cannot sustain you. John, we can go on and on. Ruth, we can go on and on. They can't sustain you, and so we're going to move on. So here's the thing that we have to be mindful of the demonic realm operates with spiritual awareness the thing that we have to be mindful of the demonic realm operates with spiritual awareness.
WALTER:Shouldn't we be even more discerning if the demonic realm is operating within the spirit realm? And they understand how the spirit realm works, we should too absolutely even the more because God created the spirit realm.
SHANEA:Exactly.
WALTER:And we are directly connected to God by the way of the spirit of God that dwells in us through the gift of the Holy Spirit given to us, based on what Christ did. Mm-hmm.
SHANEA:Yeah, but Christians are too afraid to touch that realm, and so we don't experience his glory, we don't experience his presence and um, and this is why people can't recognize his voice, because they don't know him yeah because god is spirit and truth and we can't worship him in spirit and truth if we don't live in the spirit realm exactly, and so what I would want you all to think about as we move forward.
WALTER:you gotta ask yourself do you truly believe whether god's? Do you truly believe whether God's? Do you truly believe God still speaks today, right, and are you allowing religion or culture?
WALTER:or fear, or fear or tradition to mute your sensitivity to the Holy spirit, mm hmm that's something that we really have to think of. I've been there, my wife has been there. We've been in those positions. I can speak for myself. I've been in a position where I was super religious, had no understanding of how God spoke, did not understand scripture, didn't even know what I was reading. Right. No one even taught me.
SHANEA:Or you're thinking you know what the Holy Ghost is, but you don't, you're catching the holy ghost at church, but you don't have a feeling. You don't understand spiritual things, yeah, you don't walk in the spirit, yeah, and so how do you even know when the holy spirit is moving?
WALTER:read that quote right there, babe which. Which quote babe Under the one-dimensional. We serve the quote oh we serve a multi-dimensional God, but worship him like he's one-dimensional. We serve a multi-dimensional God but, worship him like he's one dimensional. Yeah, that is so good, because we do. I would go further and say that not only do we worship him like he's one dimensional, but we approach him like he's one dimensional.
SHANEA:I was about to say we approach him like he's one dimensional. I was about to say we approach him like he's one dimensional, Like you can't find him. You can only find him in the Bible. And it's so crazy to me because you're reading about prophets, men and women of God who did not have scripture. I mean, they had the laws of Moses, but even before Moses, how were they experiencing and hearing God?
WALTER:for themselves. Where do you think the scriptures came from?
SHANEA:Yeah.
WALTER:They encountered God.
SHANEA:Where did the law of Moses come from? Moses didn't come up with this on his own. He didn't come up with this on his own. How did these men and women of God form relationships with God, the father, and God the son, before the Bible was even written?
WALTER:We don't think about that and the fact. Listen on that. Job 33, 14 through 16. For God speaks again and again through, though people do not recognize it. Yeah.
SHANEA:So God speaks in many ways dreams, visions, a whisper and a knowing. But we're still limiting him to one way of speaking, and that is through men and other men and women's encounter, or actually his him speaking in the bible to them and we don't the.
WALTER:The challenge is we haven't even truly been taught how we are supposed to study scripture, so we are misinterpreting the scripture that we read because we don't realize that multiple scriptures tied to the same thing.
WALTER:Oh, absolutely they tie back to the same thing, it's saying the same thing, it's tied together, you know, and so that it really hit me when you know I was having my moment with God and he let me know, for example, that the Lord prayer, thy kingdom come, thy will be done, ties back to Psalms 139. When it talks about how his the books that he has that he's written for us every single day of David's life.
WALTER:He was saying it's already been written in your book. You know every move I'm going to make before I make it, which is why, in the Lord's prayer, jesus told us to pray that God's kingdom will come, that his will will be done here on earth as it is in heaven, because he already knows what's best. So what Jesus was saying to us is that in everything we do, we need to pray that we are in the perfect will of God, based on what he's already called for our lives.
SHANEA:Yeah, and then, even more so at the end of the prayer where forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, which is forgive those, forgive others, so that my father in heaven will forgive you also. That also has to be a part of that prayer which you could find in a number of scripture where it references that you have to forgive.
WALTER:Which is why you have to be led by the spirit of God even as you study the scriptures. But yeah, so our culture teaches skepticism. We must retrain our spiritual hearing, because science seeks logic, but God often speaks outside our understanding. Yeah. Pastor Mike Signorelli. What's wrong. Why are you looking like that, mike Signorelli? What's wrong?
SHANEA:Why are you looking like that? Oh no, I was just wondering if you rewrote this, because I put my little two cents in there.
WALTER:No, I didn't. Oh okay, I don't think I did, but he touched on how he's happy he was joking, but it was somewhat serious that he's not this extremely logically based person. Yeah. Because the more advanced you are, the more wise you are from a worldly perspective, the more challenging it becomes to understand things of the spirit.
SHANEA:Yeah, the more educated you are.
WALTER:Because you try to explain stuff away so you're not able to experience God Right? That's another challenge that we face a lot of times that when you are in that, when you have a logical perspective, when you're trying to explain it and you're overthinking and you're heavily science-based and all of these things, it becomes a struggle to experience the things of the spirit. Right. Because it's unexplainable. Right, it really is.
WALTER:And so we touched on this last week. Discernment grows in silence, in scripture in silence, scripture in silence, and each believer must learn their own voice print of God, how he uniquely communicates with them. That's the issue. Yeah.
WALTER:And you touched on that before that a lot of times we're looking at how God communicated with Daniel, we're looking at how God communicated with John, we're looking at how God communicated with Jesus, when it literally just showcases, or even Mary, jesus' mother. There's a multitude of examples, job, we can go on and on. We multitude of examples, but literally what it showcases. The Bible shows us that there's a vast array of ways that God can speak to us. Right.
WALTER:Like it showcases that God is really complex in how he speaks, you know. So from there we can go to this watching to see what God will say, but I want to dig more into how God speaks, and what are your thoughts? Do you want to add something in, babe, as we're going through this process?
SHANEA:Yeah, no, I had. Um, if I I had notes, I had put notes on this, but they're not here, so I was just trying to go back to what I had in regards to science.
WALTER:Cause. I think, Okay, is this from last week episode that you had it in there, or you put it in for this week?
SHANEA:I put it in there for this week, for the second half, and I think that I think it, but it's okay. What were you saying? Do you remember what you was getting?
WALTER:before yeah.
SHANEA:Okay, go ahead. Uh, I was saying that how um science tries to uh explain away what god had already revealed to us through the prophets in the bible, like the importance of dreams and visions on unexplained like sense and sensations and stuff like that. Um so science often seeks to you got it. Yeah, well, kinda I had way more stuff. I put it on your iPad, so I didn't put it on mine okay, I think it's right here.
WALTER:I will send it. It was under the God is always speaking side.
SHANEA:I put it under God is always speaking, and then I put it under I had a couple other things.
WALTER:So I don't know.
SHANEA:But I don't really remember, but it's fine.
WALTER:We will continue. I don't want to get go ahead. What were you saying?
SHANEA:No, no. So one of my notes is just saying that how science often seeks to rationalize or explain different phenomenas through logic, data and observable patterns. But God has already revealed the spiritual meanings behind many of these experiences through his word and testimonies of the prophets, like dreams and visions, like, for example, when job said he basically is getting nightmares um but science will tell you oh, it's normal, or um, you just probably ate something bad before you went to sleep or um, then they have all these dream apps to try and interpret what your dreams mean, when the only person that can interpret those dreams are god, which is god exactly?
SHANEA:exactly. And then, um, I think I was talking about the, the different ways you can discern god or like, if he gives you, like a, if you have a certain unexplained scent, or something like that or fragrance. You, you, you, um, you can smell, but you that you can smell flowers, but there's no flowers in the room, and so science will try to explain in a way like, oh, it's just in your imagination, um, or something like that. Or you just have like a, a peace come over you, um, that's unexplainable after praying.
WALTER:But science will try to explain in a way like, because they don't have, there's no revelation there they're approaching it from the world perspective, the world wisdom which that came into place, uh, with the fall of man, right, with adam and eve and it's not that science is bad because I'm a, you know I have my master's in nursing, so my entire life has been nothing but science.
SHANEA:Science is actually my favorite subject, but it definitely can reveal God's wonderful creations, right, but it doesn't really replace the spiritual truth behind it. It's always trying to figure out the truth, like why does this happen?
WALTER:But never related back to god yeah, they try to explain the way they try to explain god away, but there's certain things that you still just cannot explain no, because faith doesn't require you to have proof yeah, and so I do remember all of that being there yeah but yeah, my bad it's cool, but that's good stuff, yeah that's good.
WALTER:I mean because you do have to look at it from a scientific or scientific perspective and understand that there are those part of the reason that they struggle with hearing the voice of god is because they're very science-based or logically based, so they're trying to explain with their mind and it's that would negatively impact you. You, because it becomes a situation where you're saying I have to be able to explain what I see or what I'm hearing. Yeah.
WALTER:Or you will explain away that still voice, you will explain away those visions you're having. You'll explain away those dreams that you're having. You'll explain away the senses and all those things or voices. And so it's just the reality of what it is, but that's good.
SHANEA:Right, or you're getting visions and you're like the doctor's going to put you on medication. But here in the Bible we see God gives people visions all the time.
WALTER:Yes, I mean it was full of. The Bible is full of people receiving visions, dreams. The Bible is full of people receiving visions, dreams. Even as I was looking through it, it's example after example of the angels of the Lord going to actually interpret the dreams for them and to present the messages of God to them. And so this is just what it was. But I believe part of the reason it was the way it was during that period of time is because they weren't distracted.
SHANEA:Yes, and they didn't while science existed. It was not the end, all be all right. It wasn't like, um, your, your job wasn't contingent on whether or not you have visions or not. But here in the bible they were like yeah, you see, you can see.
WALTER:Okay, I gotta put you on my team yeah, because you had seers that actually aided the kings. Yeah, but here, women of god, they aided the king here in the world.
SHANEA:It's like you see, okay, I'm gonna put you on medication.
WALTER:Yes, and I'll put you in to try to explain it. I'm gonna put you in a mental institution and then a lot of times, um, the very thing that and this is good for you all the very thing that, um, god is giving you as a gift, the enemy will attack. Oh, yeah, and so when you're a seer, for example, you see demons a lot. You're terrorized by demons.
SHANEA:Yes.
WALTER:You're terrorized by quote, unquote, all of this stuff. Seeing what's going on, Hearing voices. Exactly, it's the enemy trying to really put you outside of your mind. Right To where you're not able to really hone in on that to understand.
SHANEA:Dig in from God.
WALTER:So if you see demons, you should also be able to see angels, and you can also be able to experience visions and the glory of God. So that's good, and now we'll come back to watching to see what God says. Let's go into how God speaks, because we're still we're already talking about that, okay. So what we need to understand is God speaks in many different ways, and each of us must learn how he uniquely speaks to us. Yes, we touched on this last week and we have scriptures, but God can speak to you through a still small voice. He can speak to you through dreams and visions. He can speak to you, to you, through an inner knowing. He can speak to you through impressions.
WALTER:he can speak to you through, uh, others, whether it be a prophetic word, whether it be sermons, whether it be, movies whether it be a song, whatever may have you right um your mother your mom or your dad can come and say a word without even knowing it, and it's something that God is using them to speak to you about.
SHANEA:Right or a stranger. A stranger, whatever may have it A person at the coffee shop, exactly.
WALTER:I don't even think I'm touching on all of the different ways that God can speak to you.
SHANEA:No.
WALTER:You know it goes even further than that. I mean all of your senses smell.
SHANEA:Yeah, touch, smell, touch, taste. Yeah, all of your senses.
WALTER:God can utilize that to speak to you, and so there's a vast like. God can literally take you up in the vision, and we have examples of this in the scriptures. He can literally have it. They don't like to say this, but by the power of the Holy Spirit, your spirit can travel. God can take your spirit and transport it somewhere we saw it with Ezekiel.
WALTER:And so I think a lot of times when we read the scriptures we think, oh, this is just scripture and it's like no, these are men and women encounters with God, and we have to get that through our head.
SHANEA:Right, but it's hard because, like we said, it's the logic that people can't get by because we live in a world where it's like oh, you're crazy if you think your spirit is traveling. You're crazy if you think you're hearing voices. You're crazy if you think you're seeing visions, or you're crazy if you think you're feeling or discerning different spirits.
WALTER:And I mean it's all here, though, and we have quite a few scriptures to go through and we may not read them all, but I wanted to give them examples. Babe, these were scriptures that was just coming to me as I was kind of like okay, paul, for example, paul came to mind it's acts, chapter nine, uh, beginning at verse three, and it says, uh, as he was approaching damascus on this mission, a light from heaven and paul will backdrop and we'll read. We'll read all of it, chapter one, I mean verse one. Meanwhile, saul was uttering threats with every breath and was eager to kill the Lord's followers. So he went to the high priest. He requested letters addressed to the synagogues in Damascus asking for their cooperation in the arrest of any followers of the way he found there. He wanted to bring them, both men and women, back to Jerusalem in chains.
WALTER:As he was approaching Damascus on this mission, a light from heaven suddenly shone down around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him Saul, saul, why are you persecuting me? Who are you, lord? Saul asked, and the voice replied I am Jesus, the one you are persecuting. Now get up and go into the city and you will be told what you must do. The men with Saul stood speechless, for they heard the sounds of someone's voice but saw no one. Saul picked himself up off the ground, but when he opened his eyes he was blind. So his companions led him by the hand to Damascus. He remained there, blind for three days and did not eat or drink. That was an open vision that Saul had. Not only was it an open vision, but it was an open vision that those that were around him that also experienced. They experienced that open vision. That's one of the ways that God can speak to you.
WALTER:God can speak you through an open vision, right to where your eyes are open like our eyes are open right now and god can really show you something, as your eyes are open right, like as I'm looking at you right now I can also see in this vision or in the spirit realm.
WALTER:And it is possible. I've experienced it, my wife has experienced. I've seen angels and, as my eyes were open, I've seen the angel, and anyone that's seen an angel, they will always explain it to you this way the angel of the Lord is always bigger than the room, yet they fit in the room. It is nothing but light. It is nothing but light. It is nothing but light, and so that's one way God speaks open visions. And then we dig further in verse 10. Now there was a believer in Damascus named Ananias. The Lord spoke to him in a vision calling Ananias yes, Lord. He replied. The Lord said go over to Straight Street, to the house of. So now this is another example. In this example, once again, Ananias had a closed vision.
WALTER:So these few scriptures, we're already seeing someone who experienced an open vision and someone who experienced a closed vision. Babe, do you want to go to Genesis 37, verse 5 through 11. Okay sure.
SHANEA:Genesis 37, verse 5 through 11. One night, joseph had a dream, and when he told his brothers about it, they hated him more than ever. Listen to this dream, he said we were out in the field tying up bundles of grain. Suddenly, my bundle stood up and your bundles all gathered around and bowed low before mine. His brothers responded. So you think you will be our king, do you? Do you actually think you will reign over us? And they hated him all the more because of his dreams and the way he talked about them. Soon Joseph had another dream and again he told his brothers about it. Listen, I have had another dream, he said. The sun, moon and eleven stars bowed low before me. This time he told the dream to his father as well as to his brothers. But his father scolded him. What kind of dream is that? He asked Will your mother and I and your brothers actually come and bow to the ground before you? But while his brothers were jealous of Joseph, his father wondered what the dreams meant.
WALTER:This is an example of God foretelling of the future to Joseph in dreams. This is showcasing that God speaks to us in dreams too.
SHANEA:Yeah, but it's hard because it just reminded me of a story, or a lot of stories that we've heard, where children have dreams or they see demons, or they see things that other people can't see, and so their family members try to quench their gift because it's something that they don't understand, and it's so sad.
WALTER:Yeah, I mean, it's just the reality of what it is, and we see that here.
SHANEA:God clearly was speaking to Joseph, but his family was like no.
WALTER:Yeah, well, I mean, the family understood what was taking place, but his brothers, as we know, were jealous of Joseph. So we know that was the case. But, yeah, you also. It showcases that you got to be careful of who you tell your dreams to. Yes.
WALTER:You got to be careful of who you allow into what God is showing you to. Yes, you got to be careful of who you allow into what God is showing you. And we see and, for time's sake, we have Genesis 42, chapter 42, 42, verse 14 through 36. This is Joseph's spiritual knowing. That's an example of Joseph actually having the conversation with Pharaoh, and there's a few things that we can mention here.
WALTER:First of all, joseph made it clear and you all can read this at a later time, he made it clear that God interprets all dreams, because dreams come from God. Leave interpretation to God, because God is the one who gives us the dreams. Yet what we notice is that not only did Joseph interpret the dreams by way of the power of the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God but there was also wisdom. There was a knowing of how to handle the forewarning of the drought that was going to take place in the land, the famine that was going to take place in the land, in the land, the famine that was going to take place in the land. There was wisdom that joseph provided too, which digs into the fact that god can speak to us through a knowing, through just automatically inserting wisdom and information into us right.
SHANEA:It's like that little light bulb that goes off in your head yeah, and so which? Is it's called, it's revelation?
WALTER:yeah and he, he revealed revelation or produced or provided revelation to Joseph. So, that's another example. And then we have here Ezekiel, chapter 8, verse 1 through 17. That's an example that speaks on the dry bones, where Ezekiel was taken up by the spirit of the Lord, his spirit. That touches on an example of your spirit traveling by way Now, because you do have people in the world, their spirit travel, but we're not talking about you doing this in your own might, in your own strength.
SHANEA:That's very demonic, which is what people in Satan's camp do.
WALTER:But we are talking about traveling by way of the Holy Spirit.
WALTER:Yeah, so a lot of times you would have people even in the church that would tell you that spirit travel is demonic. It's not demonic because this is what happened in Ezekiel, chapter 8, verse 1 through 17. That's what took place. He was transported and I believe that. Let me make sure because I don't want to misquote, but I believe this is the example of the dry bones. I just want to make sure because he traveled before Yep, chapter eight, verse two. I saw a figure that appeared to be a man. From what appeared to be his waist down, he looked like a burning flame. From the waist up he looked like gleaming amber. He reached out what seemed to be a hand and took me by the hair. Then the spirit lifted me up into the sky and transported me to jerusalem in a vision from god. I was taken to the north gate of the inner courtyard of the temple where there is a large idol. Oh no, this is something different. This isn't of the dry bones, but the dry bones is of an example is an example. This is, uh, what we talked on before. I'm glad I checked that. This is something different. This isn't of the dry bones, but the dry bones is an example. This is what we talked on before. I'm glad I checked that. This is when he was taken into the temple of God and you know he showed them all of the things that was going on in the temple of God the idolizing, the worshiping of other idols just the mess, the craziness that they was doing before he destroyed them. But this is an example of being transported in the spirit.
WALTER:Daniel 9, 20 through 23. That's chapter 9, verse 20 through 23. That provides us with an example of an angel of the Lord delivering a message from God to Daniel. That's another way that God speaks. He has sent forth an angel to deliver a message that he wants to get to you. Luke 1, chapter 1, verse 26 through 38. That's the example of the encounter that Mary had with the angel of the Lord that foretold of the birth of Jesus, once again God speaking to her by way of an angel. There's so many different scriptures in the Bible. That proves everything that we're talking to you all about. The problem is we read the Bible and we just think that we're reading stories, which is why we once again limit how God moves in our lives. And I think the takeaway from this is we don't choose how God speaks. Right.
WALTER:We recognize and respond when he does.
SHANEA:Right, just like Samuel in the temple.
WALTER:We don't choose how he speaks to us.
SHANEA:He didn't ask God to give him a word or to speak to him.
WALTER:He was just in position.
SHANEA:Right.
WALTER:He was just, without even knowing it, he was in position. So, um, now that we have that right, I think we can go back to watching to see what god will say. Uh, babe hebeka, chapter two, verse one do you want to read that? Uh, where are we going?
SHANEA:abaca chapter two, verse one no, I mean what section are we uh watching to see what god will say. Section eight okay you got it uh, two verse, one right. I will climb up to my watchtower and stand at my guard post there.
WALTER:I will wait to see what the lord says and how he will answer my complaint the thing is with this scripture is so interesting because he stated I will wait to see what the lord says. Not I will hear right he said I will wait to see see right right right and that really just it really kind of mess with me, because even how we approach, when we hear god speaks or hear god speak to us, many times we're witnessing something, we're seeing something he's going to get your attention.
WALTER:Yes, because that's the way that we function we see right, we see but as we see, we hear from what we see. If that makes this, is it a better way that you can explain that to where? Don't confuse, because I know what I'm saying.
SHANEA:Right, it's um we. Oh my gosh, it's on the tip of my tongue.
WALTER:Okay, so here's the thing God often speaks visually in dreams, pictures, impressions and visions. So, even like when I get the message of what it is that we're going to speak about, it's like you hear what God is saying, but it's like you see what God is saying.
SHANEA:You see the thought.
WALTER:Yes.
SHANEA:You see the thought, like I know what I'm going to say before I say it, but it's not my voice who's speaking Exactly, so it's not like you sometimes. Yes, you can see with your visual eye. He'll give you a vision, he'll give you a dream, he'll show you numbers, synchronicities, he'll show you pictures, or you'll have an unexplained attention to a color a particular color, You'll notice a certain color. All those things are ways God can communicate with you, but it's not God he can speak audibly to you.
WALTER:Well, see, if you read further down right, verse two, it says Then the Lord said to me write my answer plainly on tablets so that a running can carry the correct message to others. This vision is for a future time. It describes the end and it will be fulfilled. If it seems slow in coming, wait patiently, for it will surely take place. It will not be delayed. So God basically gave him a vision after telling him write this down.
WALTER:And if we look at the Bible, many times God is speaking, but he's speaking through visions, he's speaking through dreams, he's speaking through all of these things. You do have the audible voice of God, yes, but it's to showcase something to you, and so, when Rebecca is saying this, what's really being said is I am waiting to see, I'm waiting, I'm waiting, I'm open. I'm open to the vast ways that God can speak.
SHANEA:Right, I'm waiting to see what it is that you're going to say, because there's so many different ways that you can come to me.
WALTER:Yeah.
SHANEA:So I'll just sit here and wait.
WALTER:So you have to be your mind, your heart, which is your subconscious, has to be open to saying I'm sitting here, positioning myself on top of my watchtower, which is from a place of prayer. It's from a lifestyle of prayers, from a lifestyle of worship, it's from a lifestyle of consecration, it's from a lifestyle of holiness.
WALTER:So, I can see how God speaks, to receive, whatever the message may be. However that message may be, whether it be through a dream, whether it be through a vision, whether it be through a knowing, whatever it may be, I am open to see what the Lord has to say. So hopefully that makes sense. So and this is what they were saying and we touched on this this requires spiritual awareness and this is developed through prayer, fasting and intentional stillness.
SHANEA:Yeah.
WALTER:You got to wait on God. Yeah. We touched on that last week and you have to understand that God doesn't always speak audibly.
SHANEA:uh, you have to be open to however god speaks, right spiritually but that's not to knock that if you are hearing voices, they may not be from god, but that is for you to go to god to say hey God, I'm hearing this. What is this I'm hearing? Why am I hearing this, Instead of just shutting it out completely or shutting visions out completely because they're demonic? It seems like.
WALTER:And we're going to dig into that next too. But I want to ask, I want this something. I want this to be something everyone reflects on and it's something for us to even think about.
SHANEA:Do we give God enough quiet space to show us something? No, many times we don't. And I know he was talking to me about that this week. Well, was it this week? It just started this week, so last week.
SHANEA:Last week I asked him a particular question and I was frustrated because I hadn't been getting the answer that I wanted. And he's like well, whose fault is that? And I'm like, um, it's my fault, why is it your fault? And I'm like, dang, because I haven't been sitting and listening for the answer um, long enough. He's like yeah, you have not been sitting and listening, you have not been waiting for me, so you need to spend more time with me in order to find out the answer. And I'm like, yeah, you're right, it's my fault.
WALTER:Because God don't work on our time.
SHANEA:Yeah.
WALTER:He work on his.
SHANEA:It's my fault.
WALTER:And it's not that God is being mean or anything, it's just he's teaching us the importance of developing a relationship. When you develop a relationship with someone, you spend time with them, and I know it's hard sometimes because life is busy, but that's how you develop a relationship with someone is through time, through time, and so this is where we can kind of go into this next point. This is key and this is so important, babe. And if you want to pull up galatians 5, 16 through 26, where you going, babe uh, segment nine.
WALTER:So god's voice will never contradict his word or character. We're talking about how God speaks, we're talking about how to hear the voice of God, but we have to be mindful of the fact that my wife just said that that other voices could speak to you, and we touched on in another episode that you have the voice of the enemy, you have the voice of God, you have the voice of others, which can be influenced by the enemy or God, right? You have the voice of the culture, which can be influenced by the enemy or God, right. So you have all of these different voices, but when we look at it and we kind of just peel back all of the layers, we have the kingdom of darkness and we have the kingdom of light. And so galatians 5, uh, verse 16 through 26 I really wanted to put this in as something, and I I ask everyone, please take these, these scriptures down, especially this this could be a gauge of how to really decipher between whether it's God speaking or the enemy.
WALTER:Yeah, and babe, do you want to read that?
SHANEA:You want to read all of it.
WALTER:Yes.
SHANEA:Okay, we're going to read all of it. Okay, you guys Living by the Spirit's power, galatians 5, 16 through 26. So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives, then you won't be doing what your sinful nature craves. The sinful nature wants to do evil, which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other.
SHANEA:So you are not free to carry out your good intentions, but when you are directed by the Spirit, you are not under obligation to the law of Moses. When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, the results are very clear sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, envy, drunkenness, wild parties and other sins like these. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the kingdom of God, but the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. There is no law against these things. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have nailed the passions and desires of their sinful nature to the cross and crucified them there. Since we are living by the Spirit, let us follow the Spirit's leading in every part of our lives. Let us not become conceited or provoke one another or be jealous of one another so we know that that's a lot to hear, but that's the cheat code everyone.
WALTER:Uh, whenever you are being led by the spirit of god, god will never move you or encourage you to do something that goes against what he stands for. He would never. And then we have James 4, 1 through 10, another example, and it's just really once again giving us example of what God stands for versus what God does not stand for, right. So this talks about drawing closer to God, and the greatest thing about this is it tells us, as we draw closer to God, god will draw closer to us. James 4, chapter 4, verse 8 says Come close to God and God will come close to you. It says wash your hands, you sinners. Purify your hearts, for your loyalty is divided between God and the world.
WALTER:Yes, and so God will never draw you closer to the world. God will always draw you closer to him and his ways. So if God is speaking to you, it will always be something that draws you closer to him and his ways. So if God is speaking to you, it will always be something that draws you closer to him and his ways. If we are in relationships and I'm just saying, and you're married to someone, but they're consistently trying to draw you further away from the things of God. That's not God. That's not God If it's consistently trying to encourage you not to pray, not to be in your word, not to fellowship, not to have a relationship with God. That is not God.
SHANEA:Right, or you're constantly quarreling, or you're jealous, or there's outbursts of anger, there's selfishness there, there's jealousy there, there's division there. You're out encouraged to go there, you're out encouraged to go drink or go to parties or do things that are not, uh, producing the fruit of the spirit. It's time for you to just take a little step back and say, hey, you know what?
SHANEA:I don't see any fruit yeah I don't see the fruit in this, so let me take a minute. Let me take a break and see what the lord is saying about all of this.
WALTER:And this is these are scriptures that we really want you to read. That's good for you. 2 Timothy 1 through 7, and we're going to try to speed through. This is another example, for God has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but of power, love and self-discipline. So anything that creates fear in your heart, it's not of God and timidity, but of power, love and self-discipline.
WALTER:So anything that creates fear in your heart, it's not of God and there's a difference, because we talked about this before when we was putting the notes together. Whenever you see the angels of the Lord, come in. Even with Jesus, there were moments in time after his crucifixion, death, burial and resurrection. He's told them what. Don't be afraid.
SHANEA:The angels of the Lord will constantly say fear not. Right.
WALTER:But when you're dealing with the enemy, he always wants to instill fear inside you.
SHANEA:He wants you to be fearful.
WALTER:So, as you're dealing with stuff where you're having decisions that you have to make and it's making you fearful and it's making you all of these things and anxiety and all of that stuff, you want to take that to God, because God is not going to put you in a situation where he's going to stress you out. God is not going to put you in a situation where it's going to cause fear to where you're afraid. Even when we look at movies, demonic movies, horror movies, all of this stuff, what does it does? It feeds on your fear. It tries to create fear. So a few points God's voice always aligns with scripture and God will not call you to something that serves your flesh over your spirit. And if it causes fear, chaos or pride, it is not God. Let me say this again If it causes fear, chaos or pride, that is not God. Let me say this again If it causes fear, chaos or pride, that's not God. Right.
SHANEA:And then if you do think that you are hearing God ask more questions, it's okay. I think I need to move to New York. I think I need to move to Maryland. Ask God, why? Why do I need to move here? What's my purpose in being in this place?
WALTER:He may not tell you.
SHANEA:He may not tell you.
WALTER:But you would get some type of confirmation, but you ask more questions.
SHANEA:Well then, what do I need to do? Can I have more confirmation on? Can you send me someone to tell me? Can you put an impression on me? Can you give me another sign? So, you can always ask more.
WALTER:When you're dealing with this. These are two things I want you all to think about Does it reflect the fruit of the Spirit and does it align with God's character? God is not going to have you do something that will go against the fruit of the Spirit or go against God's character.
SHANEA:Or cause you to sin.
WALTER:Or cause you to sin, and so this is good. The Bible is not just history. It's a mirror and a measure.
SHANEA:A measurer. Explain that part, measurer being something.
WALTER:What do we use a measurer? Explain that part measure being something. What do we use a measure for? What do we use a ruler for? What do we use that for? To measure what's the definition of a measure?
SHANEA:I don't know, I have to look I actually have to.
WALTER:We measure length. We can measure a lot of things. Time.
SHANEA:I don't know what the definition of measure is.
WALTER:So when you think of this right, okay, it's a mirror, because it's a reflection, it's something that you could look into. It's almost like you're looking into a mirror, right To measure, to say, okay, this is how God moved, this is how God speaks. This is how God moved. This is how God speaks, this is how God. These are the encounters they had with.
WALTER:God. How does what I am dealing with line up with this? So when we think of God speaking we spoke about this before we have the rhema word, which is God speaking to us. However, god may speak with us. And then we have this scripture, the word of God. So we can measure that rhema word and we can compare it to the scripture and say do it line up?
SHANEA:And if it, don't line up with the scripture. It ain't God.
WALTER:Right, it doesn't measure. There you have it, and so God isn't hiding, he's inviting anyone can draw near. Intimacy with God is for everyone, and I'm gonna just leave it there. Intimacy with God is not just for prophets and pastors. We talked about this last week and leaders no, he poured out his spirit on everybody.
WALTER:And preachers and teachers and evangelists. The Bible says in the last day I will pour out my spirit, my anointing, upon all flesh, all, both men and women. Also, for men out there that want to come, for women who are leaders in the body of Christ, prophets, etc. And say that God has never called for a woman to be a leader. Why don't you read your Bible and look into Aaron's sister that the Bible referred to as a prophet of the Lord?
Speaker 3:And the Bible talked about how she led the women into song.
WALTER:That's the beginning. I came across that and I was like, oh, that was as early back as I think that was in Exodus, I believe, is where I found that at. So all throughout the Bible we have examples and this is going off on a tangent All throughout the Bible we have examples of women being leaders. Yeah, I mean, he poured his spirit out on all he was doing it even before christ came is what I'm saying, because the bible said that she was a prophet of god.
WALTER:The bible says aaron's sister, the prophet, yeah, but moving forward, to end this out a few things. We need the spirit of God to understand God. Yeah. We must position ourself in holiness and stillness. God is multidimensional and speaks in many ways. His voice always reflects his word and his nature and everything, and this is so good. Everything begins and ends with proximity. Anything you want to add, babe. Anything you want to add, babe. You could read revelation one and eight, which is a very powerful scripture yeah, I am the alpha and the omega.
SHANEA:Who is, who was and who is to come. The almighty, what did that scripture have to do the almighty Mm-hmm. What did that?
WALTER:scripture have to do he always will be Right.
SHANEA:he's never changing.
WALTER:I am the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, says the Lord God. I am the one who is, who always was and who is still to come, the almighty one.
SHANEA:Right, god is alive and he still speaks.
WALTER:To this day.
SHANEA:He still speaks. He still speaks the way he spoke to everyone else in the Bible.
WALTER:Yes, he does, and he can speak to you that way. And the thing is, not only is he alive and he still speaks, but he desires to speak to us, he desires a relationship with us.
SHANEA:And it's important to hear him, especially in these last days. There's so much going on.
WALTER:So I think we touched on a lot.
SHANEA:Yeah, I mean, hopefully this was helpful.
WALTER:Yeah, preferably this was helpful to everyone, because it's a lot of stuff going on in the body of Christ that we see that we aren't going to speak on, but we believe it's very important that you know God for yourself, because there are leaders out here who don't know God who are leading so many people astray. There are leaders out here who don't understand or have the heart of Christ, the heart of God so the very things that God cares about.
WALTER:They hate, they don't care about, contrary to popular belief. God cares about our immigration policies. God cares about us feeding the less fortunate. God cares about the housing crisis. God cares about the fact that we have, uh, those struggling in the world. We have the middle class that are now becoming homeless. Uh, we have the rich that's getting richer and those who aren't. That is a larger gap taking place. God cares about all of this.
SHANEA:Yeah, and we see that. Um, if you that, if you actually read the book of Isaiah, you will see everything God cares about and everything he hates.
WALTER:And so when you have leaders that go against the very things that God is close to, we know the scripture. We found the scripture. I forgot what scripture it was. You can look it up real quick if you have time. It touched on how, when you bless the poor, that you're lending to God. When you bless the poor, you're lending to God. When you give to the poor, you're lending to God. That's in the Old Testament, and so it's very important that we understand what God loves.
SHANEA:Proverbs 19, 17,. Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.
WALTER:Exactly so. There are a lot of things that's taken place in our culture, in our world.
SHANEA:In Matthew 25, 40,. Whatever you did for one of the least of these, you did it for me.
WALTER:That's Jesus speaking, so you can even see that Jesus was also for it. And so, and we see it, within the 5,000 men plus the women and children we don't know how many were there women- and children.
WALTER:That after Jesus had brought them out and he spoke to them not trying to go up against any church, I'm just being honest Jesus didn't collect the offering he fed them. The disciples was like listen, we don't need, we don't, we wouldn't have. Even if we worked up for a year, we wouldn't have enough wages to feed these people. Jesus took the few pieces of fishes and bread he had, he lifted it up and he blessed it and he started giving it out. And the Bible says, I believe they collected about what 12 baskets or some multiple baskets were left. How many baskets did they collect, can you see? And so we see example after example of God's heart being for those who are less fortunate. So you can't tell me that you are a believer and you are a follower of Christ, but your heart is not for those who are less fortunate. Your heart is not for those who are coming to this country seeking asylum.
SHANEA:Your heart is not for those it was 12 baskets, 12 baskets, yeah, and leftover your heart is not for those who desperately need help.
WALTER:Your heart is not for creating policies that aid those. Your heart is not for those. This is not a political channel, yet we have to understand that there are things that God cares about, and this is why, once again, I will say to you know God for yourself, because there are many leaders out here that are leading people astray that don't know him. They serve the God of self. Self-gratification. That's what they serve, the God of self-gratification.
SHANEA:Yeah, and there is abundance and provision when you bless others, when you aren't greedy.
WALTER:Yes, so we? We could say a lot, but we'll say that and that's just in general. God is not a God of injustices. If you are an unjust person, if we have unjust systems, if we have corrupt systems, God is not on the side of the corrupt systems. God is on the side of those seeking justice and anyone that tells you otherwise are wrong.
SHANEA:Right. And I also want to say just because you have close proximity to church meaning you go to church every Sunday, you listen to gospel music in the car that does not mean you have a close proximity to God, meaning you have a relationship with god, because you're not spending time with him.
WALTER:You're spending time with your pastor and you gotta be real careful because you don't want your pastor to become your god right and a lot of people. Their pastors are their gods and they idolize their pastors and they worship their pastors no, they're there to disciple you they should be there to disciple you and lead you to christ so that's our two cent yeah, and a lot of this stuff is going on and we're going to leave it at that, so we are grateful. Um, you want to end this out big like comment and subscribe?
SHANEA:no, we thank you guys for um tuning in and sticking with us this long, and if you are new here, we welcome you. Um, we hope that you will continue to ride along, tag along with us on this journey with Christ. Yeah, and if you have any questions or comments or thoughts, please let us know in the comments. Please send us a DM on Instagram, send us an email I think that's really it. Share with us your testimonies how this has been blessing you, if this has changed anything in your lives, so yeah, yeah, I think that's it we are.
WALTER:this is episode 21,. So we're seven episodes away everyone, and we will be going on a hiatus.
SHANEA:Although we are working on another channel right now.
WALTER:And we will be back I think. I think it's going to be about three months that we'll have in between, uh, starting the next season after the 28th episode. Um, I believe it's three months that we'll have and we'll be working on some other stuff in the mean in between time yes so, yeah, well, yeah, well, everyone be blessed. We appreciate you and we pray that this has been a blessing to you. Enjoy the rest of your week and happy belated resurrection Sunday. Forgot about that. Very important. Yes, happy belated resurrection Sunday.
SHANEA:Yes, that's also so yeah, every day is a resurrection day, amen.
WALTER:If you didn't get a chance to take communion, please do your communion. Please do your communion.
SHANEA:You can do communion at home. You don't have to do it once a year yes, you can do it every month or as often as you need to renew your covenant amen alright, until next week.
WALTER:Y'all be blessed bye bye.