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Lust of the Eye

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What begins as a harmless glance can become a destructive obsession when left unchecked. Walter and Shanea explore the profound biblical concept of "lust of the eye" and how it extends far beyond sexual temptation to encompass any uncontrolled craving that diverts our focus from God.

The hosts dismantle the common misconception that lust is exclusively about sexual desire, revealing how this spiritual principle applies to obsessions with wealth, power, relationships, and even seemingly innocent pursuits. By examining 1 John 2:16, they demonstrate how the enemy has employed the same strategy since the Garden of Eden, appealing to our flesh, our eyes, and our pride to lead us away from God's best.

With remarkable insight, the conversation traces how unchecked desire inevitably leads to spiritual perversion—not just sexual perversion, but a distortion of God's original intentions for our lives. Looking at Eve's temptation, Jesus' wilderness testing, and Job's covenant with his eyes, the hosts establish a powerful pattern visible throughout scripture.

Perhaps most challenging is their exploration of modern idolatry. Walter and Shanea identify how the ancient gods mentioned in scripture represented the same things people worship today, just packaged differently. Your car, career, relationship, or even family can become an idol when it takes precedence over your relationship with God. The critical question they pose: "What would you refuse to give up if God asked you to?"

The episode concludes with practical wisdom for believers seeking to guard their spiritual vision in a visually overwhelming culture. Every desire not submitted to God becomes a seed that, when watered, bears fruit—either fleshly or spiritual. Join us for this eye-opening conversation about how what we look at ultimately shapes who we become.

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Opening Prayer and Introduction

WALTER

Welcome back to another episode of Stepping in Faith, where, together, we explore the importance of having a relationship with God and how that relationship with God can impact the relationship you have with others. I'm your host, walter. I'm joined here alongside my lovely wife.

SHANEA

Shanea.

WALTER

So you prayed last week definitely.

SHANEA

I did.

WALTER

You actually ended up praying two weeks in a row.

SHANEA

I did.

WALTER

So my bad. So we are believers, of course, and we like to start this podcast out in prayer, so I will go ahead and start us off in prayer.

SHANEA

Okay.

WALTER

Father God, as we come before you this morning, we are so grateful for your love, your mercy and your grace. We thank you, father God, that even in the midst of everything going on, that you are still God and God alone. We yield and we submit ourselves to you. We welcome you into this space. We pray that you will shift the atmosphere of this place. Allow your presence to be felt, allow your glory to be experienced. Allow your glory to be experienced. Allow this episode to reach those that you've called for to reach, father God, that lives will be changed, that lives will be impacted. Father God, we thank you. Father God, lord Jesus, we welcome you here. We submit to you. Holy Spirit, we yield to you. Speak through us, take control of this podcast. Angels of the Lord, we acknowledge you. We thank you, even now, for everything you've done and everything you're going to continue to do. As we yield and submit ourselves to you Even now, god, in Jesus' name, we pray Amen, Amen. So what?

SHANEA

is the name of this week's episode.

WALTER

You have a moment.

SHANEA

Yes, I was having a moment. I'm sorry. This week's episode is called Lust of the Eye.

WALTER

Lust of the Eye, all right, and I think that was something that God gave to me. I forgot what I was doing.

SHANEA

I think you confirmed that we was going to discuss lust.

WALTER

Yeah, correct. So that scripture came to mind lust of the eye. It came to me just like that lust of the eye and when I heard it I was like lust of the eye, am I hearing accurately? And it's referencing a particular scripture. It's referencing and also we're jumping right in. I'm so sorry. What is this week? This is the 24th episode, right?

SHANEA

24th episode. We tired y'all, we are tired.

WALTER

We are tired, we are tired, we are tired, we are tired. So we apologize, but we are going to work through this and we are going to bring forth what God has placed in our spirits to bring forth. So I believe was it 1 John 2 and 16? That's where it comes from 1 John 2, verse 16.

Speaker 3

Okay.

WALTER

Yes, and this is specifically the King James Version when it's referencing, because that's how I heard it. And the King James Version says that for all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye and the pride of life is not of the Father but of the world. And the NLT Version says for this world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see and pride in our achievements and possessions. They are not from the Father. These are not from the Father, but they're from this world. And that's where we will begin.

Speaker 3

All right.

WALTER

So, going to our notes that we brought together lust, I think a lot of times when people think of lust they become focused on specifically like sexual desires, right?

Speaker 3

Right.

WALTER

I keep telling my wife, because these cameras we don't have anyone manning them in their automatic focus, so we pray that they stay in focus.

SHANEA

Yes, preferably they stay in focus. Yeah, if not, you'll just see my husband talking.

WALTER

Or you'll see my wife talking Air focus, yeah, if not, you'll just see my husband talking. Or you'll see my wife talking. So when we dig into, lust, sexual perversion comes to mind, because that's all we talk about Mm-hmm. Lust is always associated with sexual perversion.

SHANEA

Yeah.

WALTER

Nothing else.

SHANEA

But even the sexual perversion part is wrong when it comes to lust. When people think of lust, they're thinking like you're fantasizing about someone.

Speaker 3

Mm-hmm.

SHANEA

That's just not the case.

WALTER

Explain.

SHANEA

Lusting after someone is simply just what is first, what is lust?

WALTER

So the definition of lust is an intense or uncontrolled craving, typically for sexual desires, but it can also refer to any excessive or obsessive longing, for example power, wealth or pleasure. So there's three different things. There's intense or unbridled sexual desire. There's a strong desire or craving.

Speaker 3

And then there's enthusiasm or eagerness, so yeah, it's really just.

WALTER

It's a situation where it's so I like that.

SHANEA

It's an intense, uncontrollable craving, right. So your eyes just wandering, it's something that's uncontrollable.

WALTER

You don't know why your eyes wandered over there, but it just kind of did that's true yeah so when we think about that, then it digs further into it's, more than just sexual right. So we have that being less okay. And when you think of it from a biblical perspective, uh, less refers to sinful desires that oppose the will of God, especially those that come from the flesh, human nature, apart from God. It is often portrayed as a driving force behind immorality, idolatry and spiritual corruption. Now, that's new.

SHANEA

Where are you reading from your notes? Spiritual corruption? Now that's new Mm-hmm when you reading from your notes.

WALTER

The last ones I sent you no Okay. But continue.

SHANEA

No, you could. You could keep both of them out, if you want.

WALTER

I do have them All right?

SHANEA

I was just wondering.

WALTER

So, um good, I got off track. Let's look at romans 118 through 32. Then let me bring it back.

SHANEA

I'm on your nose now, I believe okay, no way, I mean we could, you could keep going because I was going yeah, keep going. I don't want to interrupt you, I was just wondering that's all I was getting into it getting into it, babe so we touched on lust?

WALTER

I don't. I guess we can touch on perversion. And the reason we touched on perversion is because, when I was taking the notes, what just came to me is that uh, when lust is unchecked is a perversion right yeah, but it when you think of perversion. Perversion is like it it's, it's essentially lust, unchecked, right. So perversion is just the distortion of something from its original purpose biblically. Biblically, it's a moral and spiritual deviation from God's order. Yeah, is that what you see in your notes.

SHANEA

Yes, that's what I have.

WALTER

Yeah, I was keeping the other notes because it was digging more into my notes.

SHANEA

Yeah.

WALTER

So I want to read this Perversion refers to the distortion or corruption of something from its original or intended person, purpose, use or meaning. Okay, the action of perverting or the condition of being perverted a diversion from the true original use or meaning. A corruption, especially a moral or sexual deviation. I like that better.

SHANEA

Yeah so, but perversion is not just. It's not just sexual.

WALTER

No.

SHANEA

Yeah, Everything is everything. The enemy created is a perverse version of what God created.

WALTER

Yes, yeah. And the thing is, when I think of per, of perversion right, because it's not just sexual I think of an alternate doctrine in comparison to the word of god, the gospel, how we've been called to live our lives as believers, as children of god. So when I think of it, lust, essentially because this is something where you have what?

WALTER

uh, you have, um, an intense craving for something right, whether it be power, whatever it may be right it can lead you to the path of becoming perverted, because when you think of lust, lust is almost like a doorway. Perversion is like you in there. Which is why I believe Jesus said what he said when he said, hey, if you think it in your mind, you've already committed sin. He was trying to forewarn us because he was like it's essentially when it goes unchecked, whatever that may be, it's not just adultery, it's not just sex, it's not just those things, it's a desire for power. Well, I think the thing is, if you even have the thought, you have to check it because it didn't come from God. And what happens if you continue to have thoughts that are unchecked? It become what your worldview, which is essentially perversion. Now it becomes perverted, right. So when you think of it? Right, we have that.

SHANEA

Let's look at Romans 1 1, verse 18 through 32, real quick okie dokie unless you have something else you want to add nah, I don't have anything and I'm struggling over here. I'm sorry, so if you guys see me on camera and I look like I'm not interested, I'm just tired.

WALTER

I'm just tired we're gonna push past and pray past it though.

WALTER

Yeah, because the enemy is trying to get us both yes, we speak against the spirit of slumber yeah and command it to loose us right now, in the name of jesus so, uh, romans 1 18 and we're reading the New Living Translation version everyone, it states but God shows His anger from heaven against all sin for wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness. They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities, his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

WALTER

Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn't worship him as God or even give him thanks, and they begin to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became other fools and instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles. So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other bodies. They traded the truth about God for a lie, so they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other, and the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other.

WALTER

Men did shameful things with other men and as a result of their sin or this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved. Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, envy of wickedness, sin, greed, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning and they disobey their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless and have no mercy. They know God's justice required that those who do these things. The interesting thing here is when we read this right the church. Many times they focus just on the sexual part of this. But this isn't just talking about sex.

SHANEA

Yeah.

WALTER

This just is, and when I'm talking about the sexual part of everyone, I'm referring to homosexual behavior.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

WALTER

So the LGBTQ plus community. But this is so much more deeper than that Right, is so much more deeper than that right. This is talking about how they literally begin to create their own doctrine and turn the way from the ways of god. It started there, right, and as it started there, it began to progress from that the thoughts that they were having, creating their own view of what God should be beginning to worship idols, beginning to worship all of these things, and it grew even more to where they thought up even more wicked ways and, because they became perverse, it was never enough, so they had to keep feeding that perversion.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

WALTER

So now we dig into sexual things, because if you understand things of the demonic right or things of the dark side of the spirit, you understand that their currency is what? Blood and sex, that is, the currency of the spirit from the demonic side.

SHANEA

It's sacrificial.

WALTER

It's sacrificial. It's sacrificial Sexually, regarding whatever it may be, because your body is a sacrifice, exactly.

SHANEA

To God.

WALTER

That's why you know it's a holy temple.

Perversion: When Lust Goes Unchecked

SHANEA

It's a defilement of your body.

WALTER

It's the greatest defilement that can be done.

SHANEA

Because your body is a temple and you're made in the image of God.

WALTER

So that's what stood out to me as I was reading that, yes, the sexual stuff was there, but it talked about their lives became full of every kind of wickedness and it digs into everything. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness and it digs into everything. It doesn't just talk about women being with women and men being with men. Yeah, it talks about sin being greed, wickedness, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior and gossip.

SHANEA

Yeah, Gossip which people do a lot of, yeah, gossip which people do a lot of.

WALTER

Yeah, so what are your thoughts on that, babe?

SHANEA

Can I be honest?

WALTER

Yes, you tired.

SHANEA

I'm tired.

WALTER

We're going to have to press through and people will be like, oh well, y'all should do it another day. No, when you submit to God, you do it when you're supposed to do it.

SHANEA

And we just talked about this in the last episode.

WALTER

Yeah, no matter how you feel. So we're going to pray that God will help my wife to do what God has called us to do, but I will continue to go and my wife, she's going to check in.

SHANEA

I'm going to check in at some point.

WALTER

So um I, so we're going to continue. Hopefully you're in focus, because you're adjusting everything right now I'm sorry I'm I'm fidgeting yeah okay

WALTER

so, father god, we thank you. We speak against the spirit of slumber. We thank you, god, that you are in the mist. We thank you for strengthening us, father god, and we thank you for allowing your spirit to flow through that you are in the midst. We thank you for strengthening us, father God, and we thank you for allowing your spirit to flow through us, that even in the areas that we are weakened and we're tired, god, we thank you that you are faithful and we will be able to do what you've called us to do, and do it well. In the name of Jesus, we pray, angels of the Lord, we yield to you being here and we thank you that you are here on assignment, by way of God, by way of the Father, and we thank you for protecting this podcast and keeping this podcast. In Jesus' name, we pray, amen.

Speaker 3

Amen.

WALTER

So we talked about this right. Unchecked lust leads to spiritual perversion.

Speaker 3

Right.

WALTER

And yeah, that was good, because when I was, what was coming to me was the vine.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

WALTER

And let me go to my notes, because I took some notes on the vine, and so where is this? I'm looking for this right now because it was interesting. That was what yeah. So it's like having. What was coming to me is that it was like having an affected part of a vine right.

WALTER

Or dead part of the vine that is still attached, and so I was doing some research on it to see. Okay, so what happens if an affected part of the vine is not removed? What happens if an affected part of the vine is not removed? What takes place from a natural perspective?

Speaker 3

The diseased branch can spread infection.

WALTER

Drain vital nutrients stunt the growth of the vine and attract pests, ultimately harming the entire plant. And then, from a spiritual perspective, it's unfruitful or sinful areas left unaddressed. So, from a spiritual perspective, if unfruitful or sinful areas are left unaddressed, it can hinder growth, corrupt others and block the flow of God's life and purpose, making pruning essential for health and fruitfulness. So, ultimately, when you dig into this, you become disconnected from the tree. You have to become disconnected from the tree because, if not, you're going to literally spread and you're going to destroy everything that you're connected to and attached to or sin in your life right.

WALTER

You let it in in a particular area, it will spread into all of those other areas and begin to affect and impact all of that.

SHANEA

Right. So if you don't treat it, you're going to be cut off.

WALTER

Yes.

SHANEA

And what came to me was the scripture, where we are supposed to be in the vine because Christ is divine. And so it's John 15, one through five, and this is ESV version and it says I am the true vine and my father is the vine dresser. Every branch in me that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes that it may bear more fruit. Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you. Abide in me and I in you, as the branch cannot bear fruit by itself unless it abides in the vine. Neither can you supposed to be in Christ and he's divine. If we let things go unchecked, we get cut off.

WALTER

Yeah.

SHANEA

We get cut off from him. It's just not a good place to be.

WALTER

The unfortunate thing is, many are cut off and don't even realize it, because you can become so it's so, it's so interesting and I don't want to go left. But even when you think of church and all of those things, many times we can get caught up in the emotions of things and so you feel like you're experiencing God because it's feeding your soul.

SHANEA

Your flesh.

WALTER

Your flesh, you feel something. You feel something. So it's like God is here and it's like no, you can't go based off of what you feel to justify that being the spirit of God. It's a feeling. You can still be reading your Bible, you still can be praying. You still can be cut off from God.

The Spiritual Dangers of Misguided Vision

WALTER

The Pharisees were praying and they were reading their word, yet they were still cut off from God, to the point to where they didn't even recognize the Savior when he was sitting there looking at them and stating that the very scriptures that you were reading speaks of me. Moses wrote about me. The entire Bible, essentially, is what Christ was saying to them it speaks of me.

SHANEA

Yeah Well, I think the other problem too is that the unpruned sin spreads and corrupts the whole tree or the whole vine, right, and so people don't unprune the sin, no, they keep sinning yeah which keeps infecting the vine and they've gotta do.

WALTER

Have we ever, have we ever done an episode on grace?

SHANEA

I think we talked about it a little bit, I think in that favor and influence.

WALTER

I believe we talked, but we didn't talk about grace like on his own no because I think the other issue is that people misconstrue grace right they misconstrue grace. Right, they misconstrue grace. They think grace is something that it's not.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

WALTER

So that's the other thing. Yet, with that being the case, I think it's important that we understand that grace isn't there to put us in the situation to say that it's okay to keep sinning yeah, I don't know what scripture that is, but it's all throughout, like I think, paul touches on this particular scripture that literally says that uh, it touches on well, I believe what paul probably spoke on it in Romans. Let me see, and you can continue, but I'll look for that scripture.

SHANEA

Okay, well, just a reflection on this particular part is is there a part of your life that needs to be pruned so the spirit can fully flow? Is there any parts in your life that you need to be pruned so the spirit can fully flow? Is there any parts in your life that you need to be cut off from that you need to cut off and prune so that you don't become an infection in God's vine. Because, he will cut you off.

WALTER

The pruning process is not easy, though.

SHANEA

No.

WALTER

It's not easy.

SHANEA

Because you have to let go of a lot of things that you don't even know is affecting your relationship with God.

WALTER

Once again. But that comes along to dying itself. Right, that comes along. That digs back into the fact that we have to literally be dead men walking, dead men and women walking, but actually that is Romans 6 in general. Would be what we're talking about, as far as grace.

SHANEA

Okay.

WALTER

And so I read a little bit of it about as far as grace, okay. And so I read a little bit of it verse versa. Verse one says well then, and? And everyone, if you want to dig into this, read romans 5 and 6, because romans 6 is a continuation of chapter 5.

WALTER

And so, uh, well then, should we keep on sinning so that god can show us more and more of his wonderful grace? Of course not, since we have to sin, how can we continue to live in it? Or have you forgotten that when we were joined with Christ Jesus in baptism, we joined him in his death, for we died and were buried with Christ by baptism, and just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father, now we also may live new lives, since we have been united with him in his death. We will also be raised to life, as he was. So this goes on, and it talks about verse 12 or verse 6. We know that our old sin for selves were crucified with Christ so that sin might lose its power In our lives. We are no longer under the control of sin.

WALTER

You are now under the power of grace has given you the power to overcome sin Right. So, when we think of grace, grace is not there for you to continue to sin Matter of fact, it's contrary. Grace is there and you to continue to sin? Matter of fact. It's contrary. Grace is there and we talked about this before. Grace is there to empower us to turn away from sin.

SHANEA

Right.

WALTER

But continue, babe.

SHANEA

Oh no, I was done.

WALTER

Okay, so, yeah, so that's the scripture everyone Read if you have time, if you want to read Romans 5 or Romans 6. I love all of Romans. I think it's an amazing book Romans, 1, corinthians, 2 Corinthians, galatians, Ephesians, all that good stuff. There's some great stuff in there. There's really, really great stuff Philippians, Colossians, all of that stuff. But we're going to keep going. So we are, we'll move to segment two the original deception, eve and the lust of the eyes. So Genesis three and six. Babe, do you want to read that?

SHANEA

Or is this the entire scripture here? I don't know if that's the entire scripture here, but essentially I guess I can pull it off.

WALTER

Okay.

SHANEA

I can pull it off.

WALTER

Everyone. When my wife gets tired, what happens, babe? What you get silly I get silly?

SHANEA

Yeah, okay, all right. What you get silly, I guess silly, yeah, okay, all right. So genesis 3, 6 the woman was convinced. She saw that the tree was beautiful and its fruit looked delicious and she wanted the wisdom it could it would give her. So she took from it took, so she took some of the fruit and ate it. Then she gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate it too.

WALTER

Okay, what version was that?

SHANEA

That was the NLT version.

WALTER

Okay, okay.

SHANEA

And so I don't know what version this is that I have on here, but it says she saw that the tree was good for food, pleasing to the eye, indesirable for gaining wisdom.

WALTER

Could be NIV or New King James Version.

SHANEA

New King.

WALTER

James Version yeah.

SHANEA

Yeah. So lust was introduced right in the beginning because she saw something that was good. It was pleasing to her eye. We're talking about lust of the eye. Lust is found through your eye gates and your eye gates lead to what your soul, and so she saw that it was pleasing to her eye and desirable for gaining wisdom which digs into power and perversion. And perversion.

WALTER

Yeah, the lust that the enemy. This is good, because the lust of the eyes went unchecked in Eve and it led to her eating from the tree, which, in return, Right, because it's like, oh, this looks good to me.

SHANEA

You've been in this garden for I don't know how long. Have you at any other tree said, oh my gosh, this looks so good, I just have to have that fruit? She didn't check it. Where did that even come from? That was a thought you never thought before. It was a thought you've never thought before.

WALTER

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it didn't say it any other time that it was pleasing to her eye as soon as satan came in.

SHANEA

That thought was implanted based on um misconstruing the words of God, absolutely, because I think even in Genesis God said it was pleasing to his eye, right. Don't think so. It says somewhere else something we touched on this.

WALTER

Did God say that Somewhere?

SHANEA

else. He said something about pleasing not the tree of uh good and evil no, no no, no, okay I think it was a, I think it was like in relation to his creation okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay continue um, which means is um, we can see, but it's just, and we can see things that are good, but the enemy makes us want it for a purpose, for a reason, Like I got to have it because of this, you know. I want it because it's self gratifying.

WALTER

Yeah.

SHANEA

Right and so.

WALTER

Well, he's always tried to feed. He's always focused on feeding the flesh. Yeah, right, and so Well, he's always tried to feed. He's always focused on feeding the flesh.

SHANEA

Yeah, and so this comes in, and that when you have a thought that isn't that's a new thought or a recurring thought about a thing or a person, you have to. This is where the Bible says to test the spirit. And Eve didn't test the spirit behind the offer. She went off exactly what looked right to her, what looked good to her. She didn't consult with God, the creator, because she had lacked knowledge in an area where God told Adam that they shouldn't be eating from this tree. And when Satan came to her, she wasn't very clear about what God said about the tree.

SHANEA

And when Satan came to her she wasn't very clear about what God said about the tree. She was like surely I won't die if I eat this, so this looks good and I'm just going to go ahead and eat it instead of hey God, should I eat this fruit? Because I don't really know if I should. I'm not quite sure exactly about what you said. She didn't test the spirit because it didn't lead her back to God. It led her to self-gratification. It led her to herself pleasing herself.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and we just talked herself pleasing herself.

SHANEA

Yeah, and we just talked about this in the last episode about testing spirits.

WALTER

And I think, when we, when we gain an understanding that from the beginning, satan has always appealed to our flesh, the lust of our flesh, the lust of our eyes and the lust of our eyes and the pride of life he did in Eve. Now we understand the strategy of the enemy.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

WALTER

We understand the strategy and that's 1 John, 2, 16. We wrote, read and it digs back into Genesis 3. And we saw that example with Luke 4, 5 through 8, specifically right, and that came to me as I was taking down notes the temptation of Jesus. One of the things that he did with Jesus. Right, he went and tried to tempt Jesus in that particular way. In that particular way it says that. Verse five says then the devil took him up and revealed to him all the kingdoms of the world. In a moment of time I will give you the glory of these kingdoms and authority over them. The devil said because they are mine to give to anyone I please, I will give it all to you if you will worship me. Jesus replied. The scripture says you must worship the Lord, your God, and serve only him. So this showcases that the enemy tactics has never changed.

SHANEA

No.

WALTER

That ties right back to Genesis what he did with Adam and Eve.

SHANEA

Yeah.

WALTER

One of the things that he wanted to do was, first and foremost, caused him to turn against God.

SHANEA

Yeah, which he did.

WALTER

He did, he did, he wanted them, and then he also wanted the power, because it was power that God had given to them to have dominion and rule over the earth. Oh absolutely and they gave that away to the enemy.

SHANEA

Yes, because they started listening to him.

WALTER

So the question becomes what are we giving away to the enemy by turning away from God? What power within our own personal lives are we freely submitting to the enemy?

SHANEA

Yeah, just because it looks good, exactly. So you mean, like your relationships it looks good. Success that looks good, ambition, that looks good.

WALTER

So we got to understand. The enemy tactics never change. There's always an offering of power, glory and control of some sort. He never offers what God wants, he only feeds, or he only offer what feeds the soul and strokes the ego Right. Yeah, and more importantly, the difference when you're dealing with the enemy versus dealing with God is the enemy always promises you glory Right, whereas when God is in the equation, the glory is always given to the Father. So that's the key difference, and hopefully they don't hit the train.

SHANEA

I think that's a helicopter.

WALTER

That's a helicopter.

SHANEA

Yeah.

WALTER

Yeah, of course it is at 1 o'clock in the morning. So, and it's loud, let's all get out.

SHANEA

Well, hopefully we can just talk over it and then no one will notice that there's a helicopter flying over.

WALTER

So, moving on because we got about 30 more minutes and going because we got about 30 more minutes, we, I see, and I put this in here in two ways to see spirit versus soul right. Matthews 6, 22, 6 verse 22 through verse 23. Do you want to read that for me?

SHANEA

The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy, your whole body is full of light.

WALTER

That's not the entire thing, though.

SHANEA

Oh, you want me to read the whole thing?

WALTER

Yes, I'm sorry, you know we. I just yeah, I want people to get everything.

SHANEA

Okay, you want them to get all the things.

WALTER

Matthew, chapter 6.

SHANEA

Matthew 6.

WALTER

Matthew six Verse 22 and 23. Yeah, nlt, all right.

SHANEA

Your eye is like a lamp that provides light for your body. When your eye is healthy, your whole body is filled with light. But when your eye is unhealthy, your whole body is filled with darkness. And if the light you think you have is actually darkness, how deep that darkness is.

WALTER

The unfortunate thing is, a lot of times we read scriptures and we don't understand what we're reading. I read the scripture so many times, you know, because I grew up in a church, so I read the Bible back front to back, back to front, multiple times. It wasn't until after my conversion with God that I truly understood what this meant and that's what God was dealing with me on, excuse me. And so when I was reading this and when this came to mind, we know our eyes. It's not talking like. We think of it, like, oh okay, your eyes, but it goes deeper, right, your eyes is what he was giving to me. Is that there are two different parts to this, right?

WALTER

We have the spiritual part, we have the spiritual part, we have the natural part, but what happens in many cases is that the enemy will try to get us into a space of feeding our flesh, our soul, to where our soul takes the lead, versus feeding the spirit of God. So the light and darkness is, you know, one that is driven by soulish, or on a soulish level which you still can access, the things of the spirit, but from a darker perspective, versus being led by the spirit of God which brings forth the true light. Right, right. And so it's essentially saying we must view life through our union with the spirit of God. Right, this is 1 Corinthians 6 and 17. This is Roman 8. It's essentially saying we must view life through our union with the Spirit of God.

Speaker 3

Right.

WALTER

This is 1 Corinthians 6 and 17. This is Romans 8, 15 through 16. All this talks about us being joined with the Father.

Speaker 3

Right.

WALTER

And in many cases, unfortunately, what happens is we place ourselves in a position where we are viewing things from our soul, and when doing so, we are viewing things from our soul, and when doing so, we open ourselves up to demonic influence, and I don't think we understand how deep that goes. And then you can get to a point and this is what the scripture was talking about to where you may think what you're doing is right.

SHANEA

Right. And it looks good.

WALTER

Here's the thing.

SHANEA

It feels good.

WALTER

What we have to understand. Is this right here? I don't. Yes, this is the world right. Yes, this is those that are nonbelievers or that are not quote unquote followers of Christ. Yet I think that the danger is those who think they are following Christ is what this actually touches on. More right, Because let's put a twist on this you already think you have light. So if you think you have light, you are thinking that you're following along the ways that God intended for you to follow.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, you are thinking that you're following along the ways that God intended for you to follow.

SHANEA

Yeah, yeah, and it's crazy because I remember I had a revelation for this, because I got a note here and this was in January, back in January of last year.

Speaker 3

And what I had got was what I watch is no different than what I eat.

SHANEA

Men's eyes are a gateway to their soul. Is your soul healthy? What have you been feeding it? If what I watch? Is light, for my body is my body filled with light or darkness. And just because you can see in the dark doesn't make you a light, it just means your eyes have adjusted to darkness.

WALTER

That sucks, that sucks.

SHANEA

Isn't that crazy.

WALTER

That's what the scripture is saying.

SHANEA

Yes.

WALTER

That's exactly what the scripture is saying. Yes, that's exactly what the scripture is saying we have to be careful, and that's a good place to be. Are your eyes led by the spirit of your soul and understanding that your eyes is deeper than what you think it does more? It can do more damage or good.

SHANEA

Yeah, and people don't. They don't really realize it because they're like, because you can't see in the spirit what is really going on and taking place behind the scenes, on what you're actually taking in, what you're fueling your lamp with. What kind of oil are you feeding your lamp with?

WALTER

is it? Holy oil I would even say this uh, for those and this is our, this is for believers I would say this because of how we move, and it's only by way of the Holy Spirit guiding us, there are certain things that we can't watch because and we talked about this before- it would literally grieve the Spirit of God within us, and the Scripture speaks of that.

WALTER

So if you're watching things and doing things and listening to things, and you, you consider yourself a believer and the spirit of God is not being grieved in you. That is a big red flag.

SHANEA

Yeah, you think you can just watch whatever you want to watch, because you you can plead the blood of Jesus and you can say Jesus Christ.

WALTER

No.

SHANEA

Jesus Christ is a name no, and you can say Jesus Christ, no Jesus.

WALTER

Christ's name? No, and you can claim.

SHANEA

Jesus Christ. No, you can't go out and just watch sinners or deliverance movies.

WALTER

Why do you call that movie?

SHANEA

out? I don't know, because believers are out there watching it, okay, and thinking that they can watch it. But, like I said, your eyes just get adjusted to darkness.

WALTER

It becomes a struggle everyone, because once again I think I spoke into.

SHANEA

I think I said that because it's what came into my head.

WALTER

I think I discussed this before. I'm a history major, and one of the first books my mother purchased me to read was a black history book, and so I just know all about our history. Yet I am a believer first and then I am a black man, and so I think with sinners and movies like that, it can be challenging, especially for believers.

WALTER

Yeah, it can be challenging, especially for believers, because there is some truth in them trying to pay homage to our heritage and our history. And you want that because it's like you know, there is voodoo and hoodoo and all of these different things that they practice and partook in that was not of God.

WALTER

And you can open yourself up to that so you can respect the history. We have nothing against that. But you want to be mindful of what you are exposing yourself to, because some of that history is full of darkness, just like some of that history is full of light.

SHANEA

Right, and I mean there's darkness, you know, here in the Bible. We see, you know, with all the pagan rituals, but there is a difference. But when you're watching something a movie where they are consulting with people who actually practice these rituals, they become dangerous.

WALTER

It's dangerous. And then they're praying over it everyone.

SHANEA

No, no, no they're praying over it.

WALTER

So as you watch that in your home, as you go to the movies and watch that, you are opening yourself up to things that you can't see with your natural eyes.

SHANEA

Right but look.

WALTER

But to each his own. I wouldn't recommend it. I'm own. I wouldn't recommend it. I'm sorry, I would not recommend, I wouldn't watch it, I wouldn't recommend it and I've always seen this stuff. But we like as far as the. You know, I told you I've been seeing demons since I was a kid, so this stuff is real.

Speaker 3

It's not fake.

WALTER

We've watched the quote unquote Chucky movies so this stuff is real. It's not fake. We've watched the quote unquote Chucky movies and had stuff come out.

SHANEA

Well, I mean people. They make it seem like it's not really that big of a deal because all kids see monsters.

Speaker 3

Okay, all right?

WALTER

Well, we ain't gonna get sidetracked.

Speaker 3

No.

WALTER

So moving on, this is one thing that we will leave you with. What starts as just an attraction can end in bondage when it isn't examined in the light of God's truth Right.

Speaker 3

Where you at, babe.

WALTER

We're still two ways to see spirit versus soul.

SHANEA

Oh, okay.

WALTER

Yeah, so we're moving on because we got a few more segments and we got about 15 minutes.

SHANEA

Okay, gotcha.

WALTER

So I'm looking at the notes. Everyone, let's dig into this because let's gain's gain an understanding, I think. Idolatry yeah we think idolatry is just um you building a gold staff or gold, calf or some type of statue to some god or no, that's not it so, uh, judge just 217. Uh, the bible lets us know in this. I believe this is just a um, you want to read judges 217 or you want to just do the summary of it?

SHANEA

um, if you could read it, I was trying to pull up um what I had got uh, let's see, because I think that's important, that we touch on idolatry Judges 2, verse 17,.

WALTER

and this is the NLT version. It says yet Israel did not listen to the judges, but prostituted themselves by worshiping other gods. How quickly they turned away from the path of their ancestors, who had walked in obedience to the Lord's commands. And that's Judges 2, verse 17. That's the New Living Translation version. So you still looking?

Making a Covenant With Your Eyes

SHANEA

Yeah, I'm sorry, I got it Okay, I think. Judges 2, 17,. God said he would give Israel over to the gods they lusted after. Today, the idols just look different. They just look different. So, and what had came to me was what gods back then were they worshiping? What gods?

SHANEA

were they worshiping back then, that we are still worshiping in today's modern times, but we just have different words for what those gods represented, right. And so you have Baal, right, who they worshiped, but they he represented, or it represents fertility, power, bowel represents power. You want some type of control, and so idolatry. This type of idolatry is tied to control, prosperity and sensual pleasures. And then you have Asherteth, which is a goddess of love, fertility, sex and war, and so worship involved with this particular false god is ritualistic, sex, prostitution and pagan festivals. So the idolatry here would be seduction, lust, feminine dominance in pagan worship, right. So ritualistic set it's, it's everywhere sex, prostitution, pagan festivals meaning parties, right parties right.

SHANEA

Mm-hmm, and you guys can continue to read about all the different gods in the Bibles. You're like six of them particularly.

WALTER

Well, it goes back to the scripture that says my people perish because of the lack of knowledge.

Speaker 3

Yeah, so you have to understand Right.

WALTER

You think that we don't understand it like your car can be an idol. Yes, Sex can be an idol.

SHANEA

Your relationship can be an idol yes, because it's materialistic and the God of God of Sidon or Phoenicia. It's a deity that represents commerce, sea power and sensual worship. So, materialism, luxury, corruption, trading, influence you have a lot of influencers out here. You have a lot of people sporting their cars and everything that they have.

SHANEA

You got a lot of people who are into luxury, buying luxury items and showing them off. Those are gods, like your worship. You spend more time in those areas than you do with God and you wouldn't give those up. Would you give any of these things up for God? Would you give up sex for God? Would you give up that Louis bag for God? Would you give up that? I like Corvette, so would you give up that. Lambo, would you give up the Corvette? Would you give up the Corvette? Would you give up?

WALTER

Why you say Lambo before you say Corvette?

SHANEA

Because I like those too. Okay, and I know you like those.

WALTER

I do like the Lamborghinis. But what I'm saying is would you give up all of that for God, do you?

SHANEA

understand, those things start to become idols. Would you give up that person? Would you give up your family?

WALTER

Would you give up your career, all of those different things. And the thing that we have to understand is just because we don't actually see it, I don't think we understand how great of a role it plays in everything that's surrounding us, whether it be government as far as politics, whether it be Hollywood, movies, entertainment, whether it be the music industry, even the church. The dangerous thing that we don't even understand, because in those things you can kind of think like we see it right.

Speaker 3

We see it with the cartoons People lost half the power.

WALTER

Yet the church? We don't even understand that. The church, many of the leaders in the church, because they want power, they are now tapped into and for some time, demonic sources.

SHANEA

You're doing whatever you can get To get that power, to get that power or you're doing whatever you can get, to get that power. Or you're doing whatever you could get to get any of those things.

WALTER

Because when you're being led by God, you and let this be a red flag to you all, Okay, and I'm just speaking in general Any man that makes you think that they can just prophesy or heal just at the drop of a dime. That's not true. You can only do as God allows you to do.

Speaker 3

Right.

WALTER

Because it's not by our own power, it's not by our own might, it is by the power of God. That's why the Bible lets us know and you can read this, and we have to read our Bible and ask the Holy Spirit to help us. As we read Jesus sent them out what? In two by two, and he sent them to places. The scripture says that he sent them to places that he was already planning on going.

SHANEA

Right.

Speaker 3

Right, right.

WALTER

And they came back even after as they were being sent out. They and they came back even after as they were being sent out. They came back in a maze Like yo, we casting out demons, we doing this, we doing all this, we doing it, and Jesus is like what you expect. I sent you. So if I sent you, you carry my mark. It's almost like and you know, we like his, like, I like you know history. I say this all the time, but it's almost like when you have the king's seal of approval, yeah, nobody touching you yeah because you got the authority, seal of approval, and that is authority.

WALTER

It's not your authority, no, it's the king is delegated. Yes, but it's because of the king, yes, and so it's the same thing he told him don't boast.

SHANEA

Boast because your names are written in heaven not because you can cast out demons.

WALTER

So the problem isn't just sexual desire, it's any obsessive longing for something outside of God's will, and when desire leads, it becomes your God. That includes fame, relationship control or even your type.

SHANEA

Yeah. So like these guys don't just represent statues, right? They're tied to demonic strongholds and world views. The world systems, literally our whole world system is built around these, these deities, these false gods, right, that appeal to everyone in prosperity and in power and pleasure and safety, all outside of God's will. It appeals to you, all outside of God's will. You're compromised Spiritually, you're spiritually compromised and it will place you in a place of bondage if it doesn't go on, if it doesn't go checked so what's some of the questions that you can ask yourself?

SHANEA

some of the questions that you can ask yourself to see whether or not you are lusting after something or that you are placing something before God and it's becoming an idol Like am I pursuing someone more than I'm pursuing God? Am I pursuing marriage more than I'm pursuing God? Am I a workaholic out of lusting for wealth, and is it costing me my intimacy with God? Am I working, working, working, which is what world system they want us to work, like dogs barely could get by. Am I prioritizing my friendships or my family or the gym or social media more than I'm spending time with the Lord?

WALTER

Yeah.

SHANEA

All those things you got to cut out, you got to prune? Yeah, you have to they, these things might not be sinful, right, but they become sin when you replace it with, when you replace it instead of god yeah, when you replace that, when you replace god with that, it can become sin and it can lead you to partaking in sinful acts right that's the thing we're not saying, because you be on social media, you're gonna go to hell, to hell.

WALTER

No we're saying that it's doorways. It opened up doorways.

SHANEA

No, but if you'd rather be on social media than be with God, then yes, it's sent.

WALTER

It becomes an idol.

SHANEA

It's an idol.

WALTER

It becomes an idol.

SHANEA

Yes.

WALTER

It becomes an idol. Yes, let's go ahead and say I mean your children can become an idol. Yes, your parents can become an idol.

SHANEA

Yes.

WALTER

Husbands, your wives can become an idol. Wives, your husband, can become an idol.

SHANEA

Anything that replaces God is an idol.

WALTER

Mm-hmm, so going from here, babe, where do you think we go next?

Speaker 3

We got about I would say, at the most 10 minutes would say at the most 10 minutes.

SHANEA

I think you put the covenant with the eyes in it with Job, right? Yeah, I think I did. I mean, I did, I put that in there. The rich, young ruler I guess we don't really have to talk about it, but it's still. Can you, looking at your heart, posture, right? What will you give up to be a follower of Christ? What will you give up to store treasures in heaven versus treasures here on earth? You know it's a a cost, it's very costly, right, um?

WALTER

and I think you could read on that joke because I like that joke. 3 3111 I made a covenant with my eyes not to look with lust I don't even remember why that came to me.

SHANEA

I don't put it in here. I stood out. Yeah, I don't remember why that came to me, but let me go ahead and read it then, job 31. One.

Speaker 3

Mm-hmm.

SHANEA

I made a covenant with my eyes not to look with lust at a young woman.

Speaker 3

Mm-hmm.

SHANEA

For what has God above chosen for us? What is our inheritance from the Almighty on high?

WALTER

Mm-hmm, that's good, that's good.

Speaker 3

Mm-hmm, that's good.

WALTER

That's good you got to hear. Job understood that unchecked looking feeds the heart.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

WALTER

And that the heart eventually acts. So modern example is like liking a certain type of car If you keep seeing it, thinking about it, fantasizing, you eventually act on it. We also see this with your social media feed. You look at something, maybe one or two times, and now it's all over your feed and unless you start looking at something else, it's just going to remain and then it just gets worse and worse with the feed, if it's not checked.

WALTER

If it's not checked, if it's not checked and we can talk specifically we can discuss now we can get into sex and those who are married who commit adultery and like unfaithfulness, Men and women, because unfortunately now with social media you have both men and women. Because unfortunately now with social media you have both men and women doing thirst traps yeah women, y'all have to. You all have to check your feed, just as much as we, as men, need to yeah because while you have all of these different women, that's gunning for the intention of men.

WALTER

Now you can have the same be said with women and then on the opposite, women, you have to check your feed with women. That's also gunning for your attention. Men you have to check your feed for men.

SHANEA

That's also gunning for your attention, because everything is overly sexualized and it's not even that you your attention, um, oh my gosh, how, how, how can I even say this? It's just like repeated exposure leads to like a fixation. Right, it forms a tie, like you might not even be attracted to this, but you keep seeing it and eventually you're going to like it.

WALTER

Because you got to also be careful, because one of the other things it does as well and that kind of digs into that. It desensitize you. You become desensitized.

SHANEA

Yes. You so used to seeing something, you become desensitized. Yeah, so you're used to seeing women with no clothes on. You're used to seeing men with no clothes on. That can be for men and for women. You're used to seeing it. That could be for men and for women. You're used to seeing it. And now you see it so often because you didn't check your feed.

WALTER

Or you keep hearing people say you need to pursue this. You need to pursue this. You need to make as much money as you need. You need to go after it. You need to work, work, work, work, work. You need to get to this level. Da, da, da, da, da da. Yeah, it literally and something wrong, because I'm not making this amount.

SHANEA

Right, or you're seeing people posting these cars, posting these things. Now you're lusting after it Exactly. Because you see it with your eye. That's what you're feeding yourself, yeah, and that's what you're telling your body that you need. You need this, so I got to keep looking at this. I keep looking at this.

WALTER

So I need it. So I think how we can begin to end this off, and I love this part. We often say it's not that deep, because culture normalizes compromise yes, absolutely, but if you but if you're led by trends and tradition, you're following influence you're following influence. You're following influence and not God.

Speaker 3

Right. And if you consistently agree with certain thoughts, they multiply.

SHANEA

Right Now, you just don't. Now you don't just notice people. Right, you formed a preference. It's like I was saying before you continue to keep seeing something. Now I have a preference because I continually keep seeing it because, other people keep showing it to me. So it must be majority rules, right, but these aren't led by God and I think about this. So, like you know, I used to be like a quote unquote. What's your typical black girl in? In middle school, I used to wear Skechers.

SHANEA

I won't come for you, I used to like I didn't dress like everybody else, but then I got picked on. I didn't get picked on, but everybody else wore like Nikes and they wore Air Forces and Jordans and I just was like a cool Skecher girl. I hung out with my little you know caucasian friends and they didn't wear jordans and nikes. I didn't even know nothing about it. And then I go to school and I see all these kids with jordans and nikes and now I'm like, oh, I gotta get me some Jordans and Nikes. Where did that even come from?

WALTER

I mean.

SHANEA

My eyes it was influence. I didn't have to do it, I just did it because everybody else was doing it.

WALTER

Yeah, or I liked it because everybody else liked it. I had great restraint just now.

SHANEA

Why.

WALTER

Because I had some comments I couldn't make.

SHANEA

What you was going to say. Nothing, because I'm still that girl. Nothing.

WALTER

We be going in on each other. We be going in on each other Because we have this running joke on whether she's a nerd or a geek, or whether I'm a nerd or a geek or a dork yeah, geek.

SHANEA

Or a dork. Yeah, are you a dork.

WALTER

I think I'm probably more so a geek. I'm probably a nerd. I think you're a dork. I'm not. Don't do that, see, y'all, see, let's stop, because they're going to be like we're insulting each other Right. So we're going to stop Anyhow, we ain't going to invite, we ain't going to put them into our home. I don't know I think I might be 30. I watched what's the name of the show that I told you about. That was amazing.

SHANEA

What show I watched? All 12 episodes of what show?

WALTER

With the geeks, the Sheldon, oh, um uh, it was all psychedelic that 70s no not that 70s, the other one, what other one? Never, never mind.

SHANEA

This is a difference oh, the big bang theory the big bang theory.

WALTER

Yes, I binge watched that 12 seasons and enjoyed everything and laughed at all of the jokes. I laughed at all of the jokes I did so I don't know what that says about me, but continue. And then I like history, and now we geek out about the word of God.

SHANEA

Yeah, we do, we geek out heavily, we do, we do. We're geeks for Jesus To end this out.

WALTER

We're geeks for Jesus. To end this out every desire not submitted to God becomes a seed. When watered, it bears fruit, either fleshly or spiritual. If it didn't come from God, it came from the enemy. That's John 8, 44, Genesis 3 for reading reference, and this goes back to what you said First John 4, 1, what Test every spirit, not every opinion.

Testing Every Thought and Final Reflections

WALTER

Yeah, so call to action. We must have what God did not plan Matthew 15, 13. Ask yourself does this thought glorify God or the flesh? Can I lay it down for God, or does it grip me too tightly? Would I give it up for God if he asked me to?

SHANEA

Yes, yes, and I have Ephesians 4, 21 through 24 here, and I'll read it real quick to end this out, because I think it's important on how we get past this, since you have heard about jesus and have learned the truth that comes from him, throw off your old sinful nature and your former way of life, which is corrupted by lust and deception. Instead, let the spirit renew your thoughts and attitudes, put on your new nature, created to be like God, truly righteous and holy Truly righteous and holy. So you have to throw off your old sinful nature. You have to throw away everything, because your eyes were tainted with lust and deception.

WALTER

Yeah, and now your soul is tainted.

SHANEA

Yes, and so you have to renew your mind. So now, when we're talking to you about things, you're like, oh, that don't really make sense. Oh, you're too deep. Yeah, no, I'm not too deep. You got to renew your mind, you're too deep?

WALTER

Yeah, no, I'm not too deep, you got to renew your mind.

Speaker 3

You're too carnal.

WALTER

And you're immature. Paul talked about it.

SHANEA

In the spirit.

WALTER

You're immature in the spirit, that's all it is. No disrespect, it's just. It really is what it is. We were at that place at one point too, and there's still areas in our lives that we can grow in within the spirit. Yeah, and there's still areas in our lives that we can grow in within the spirit, yeah, which is why we yield to those who are wiser in those areas and we submit ourselves to them because the goal is to be more like god.

SHANEA

Right, and you have the. The goal is to be more like god, and so purity starts with your perception. You have to view things the way that god views things. You have to view things the way that God views things. You have to see things the way that Jesus sees things. That's what would Jesus do Literally renewing your mind. And so it's about this, is about rest, restoring the God in you.

WALTER

Restoration yeah.

SHANEA

Yeah, the spirit of God right, or the image of God.

WALTER

Submitting to the spirit of God, of God. Submitting to the Spirit of God At the most basic level or basic way of explaining it. We touched on this before in the previous episode. It's getting from that place where your soul led you and moving to a place where you're led by the Spirit of God that's intertwined with your spirit. So now your actions aren't led by your soul. The spirit of God leads you, and now your soul goes through that whole process of being made over again.

SHANEA

Yeah, make me over again.

WALTER

So I guess this is a good place to close it yeah, I think so, anything you want to add or we can close out.

SHANEA

I think I just wanted to have them ponder on these last two questions I have. Is whatever, whatever you place above him will eventually cost you your peace. So you should just look at your life and see if there's there's been, any peace, any any of the decisions that you made? Not, um, not compromised, not, uh, what's the word I'm looking for? Um, not that you adapted to the decision that you made because at first you didn't have peace with it and you kind of adapted, right. So you have to look at every decision that you've made in your life and make sure that it aligns with glorifying God and not yourself, right, and ask God to show you anything that you are unwilling to surrender to him, because that's an idol in your heart that you need to get rid of, and you have to be willing to get rid of it, whatever it is.

WALTER

Okay, okay, there you have it, folks. That of it, whatever it is Okay.

SHANEA

There you have it, folks. That's it Well, we appreciate you guys.

WALTER

We do.

SHANEA

We are so tired.

WALTER

We are.

SHANEA

We are ready to get in bed.

WALTER

So we will let my wife close us out. We yeah.

SHANEA

We will see you guys next week like comment all that please share your testimonies on how this is blessing you. We are able to post now kinda it's not our channel, so please don't get mad at us if we are not uploading or reposting videos.

WALTER

Yeah, and I'm praying. You know I think this is episode 24. So we're four episodes away from a possible three-month hiatus is what was given to me, but we're praying to see if we can do anything to kind of share some stuff with you all in the meantime and in between time of that as we ramp up for season two. But we're four episodes out from ending out season one and I believe the way it was given to me is we're going to have 28 episodes per season.

SHANEA

So yeah, Something like that.

WALTER

Something like that, until we hear something different.

SHANEA

All right, Well, if you guys are still listening. We thank you.

WALTER

We do so to God. Be the glory God be the glory.

Speaker 3

We will see you all next week. Bye.

WALTER

All right, bye-bye.